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mattnorth
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:39 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Hi, I wonder if I can ask for your insight on a officer uniform I acquired not long ago (it was too cheap not to...). Looking through all your amazing research and stages of recreating the jacket, I wonder why on the one I've now got that the back is so much higher than the front? the only image I've seen of a reproduction similar to this was from a book with photographs back in the 90's, and all the modern made companies seem to show a more modern cut. this cut is very comfy to wear and I can move easily in it, but I don't know where the style has come from...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Matt. The uniform I made was copied from the one in the RGJ Museum. The one you have is basically a copy of the one worn in the Sharpe's series, which is loosely based on Colonel Bernard's Dolmen. Alas yours and many of the repros are cut to a more modern period. The rule of thumb is if you can put the jacket on by yourself it's not a proper fit. Officers uniforms were bespoke made and were fitted to the individual and would probably need a manservant to help with putting it on. Whereas many of the repros are off the hanger or are just have the minimal of fitting.

I hope this helps but if you need any more help or advice please feel free to ask.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks Dave, I suspected as much but it was so inexpensive it really isn't an issue for the types of events Ill wear it at :-) Ill hopefully get make it to another one of your events at some point. I very much enjoyed the training event I managed to get to that snowy January, must stop letting work get in the way!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello again all. Has anyone seen the Dress Officers Uniform depicted in either drawing or reproduction in the style mentioned in the 1802 Clothing regs (below)?
It seems strange that when the service dress has all the embellishments and cords etc that the dress seems relatively simple and more in line with other line regements?

"The Full Dress Uniform Coat for Offrs. of a Rifle Corps is to be of dark Green Cloth, long Skirts, and lined with White Shalloon, the Skirts turned back and fronted with White Cassimere sewed down, and at the Joining a Circle of Black Velvet Embroidered with Silver.12 Lappel, Collar Cuffs and Wings Black Velvet. The Lappels, rather short and made to button across the Body at the 5th Button, 3 Inches in breadth at the Bottom, and increasing gradually to 3 ˝ Inches at the Top. A Standing Collar faced with Green Cloth, which with the Cuffs are to be 3 Inches in Breadth. No Slits in the Cuffs. Cross Pocket Flaps. Ten Buttons on each Lappel, including one on Collar; Three on each Cuff and Pocket Flap. The Wings laced,and Bullion and Fringe besides Epaulettes. The Buttons set on at equal distances and all large excepting the Collar and Epaulettes. A flat plated Button with a raised Bugle Horn and Crown over it.)"
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Matt,
There are two examples of this kit in the RGJ museum at Winchester. One that belonged to Wellington in his capacity as colonel in chief of the RB in the 1820s and one that is variously dated as 1817-19. Although slightly post period, at least one predates the 1822 regs, so is likely to reflect that of our period closely.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats brill, thanks Ben. I was a little kid last time i went to the RGJ museum, about time I made a return visit!
Did the pelise ever get made for the young gentleman who has the jacket that spawned this thread?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No pelisse. Sadly, he moved on, and sold his kit outside the unit, which is always a shame to see. The dolman was a true masterpiece, we wont see its like again. The pelisse would be an interesting recreation, unlike the dolman it has some rank specific attributes that one doesn't see on the re-enactment field.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a damn shame. I would love to do abit of officer recreation although fully aware of the costs involved with recreating the kit to a worth while authenticity level that would do justice to the levels you guys go to in the rank and file clothing would be massive.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.napoleonicwarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2417 ??
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw that too. Pic from this forum and text likewise. Always nice to get a credit when this stuff is reproduced.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent thread chaps!

I would like to say thanks Dave G & Co. for all the information on here as it was a massive help to me while constructing the 60th dolman I have just finished; visiting the thread on numerous occasions for visual help in terms of braid layout etc.

The forum is a wealth of knowledge (and tomfoolery sometimes),  and you should all be very proud of it.





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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice work, Steve. I particularly like the collar. It looks long in the front compared with the Durrant and Clerke. What did you base the front length on?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Ben, I areally appreciate that ☺️. It took me theee solid days to finish the collar, and I based it 100% on the Major davy portrait for accuracy.

The length of the fronts -and back- is longer than those dolmans mentioned, but only because when SP sent the pattern to me and I made a toile, it sat very high up on my back and waist (as in above my belly button!). So I added a couple of inches to the length - mainly on the front - so that it just overlapped my pantaloons when worn. I guess at 6ft 2in I'm a tad taller than the average Georgian soldier! 🙃


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks a very nice job indeed - well done


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