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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:38 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

havercakelad wrote:
Further to quote above...I checked William Loftie's illustrations of British officers. The ones with Buff facings are from 1799 to 1801 and show 22nd, 31st and 40th with white belt but buff breeches.


John  - is there an online link anywhere to Loftie's images please ?  I have been looking for them recently.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddie wrote:
havercakelad wrote:
Further to quote above...I checked William Loftie's illustrations of British officers. The ones with Buff facings are from 1799 to 1801 and show 22nd, 31st and 40th with white belt but buff breeches.


John  - is there an online link anywhere to Loftie's images please ?  I have been looking for them recently.


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Thanks John W - as always - the knowledge on this Forum is incredible !
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Link also in our "Contemporary Pics of Riflemen" thread (last page) and in our biog of Loftie here in Archives:
http://2nd95thrifles.myfastforum.org/ftopic154-240.php
http://2nd95thrifles.myfastforum....bout548.html&highlight=loftie
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've still to find a single example from the time of buff belts on a buff faced unit by the time of the Peninsula.




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Jean-Pierre-Frédéric Barrois - An Officer of the 3rd Battalion, the 14th Regiment of Foot, Army of Occupation, Paris, 1816
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indicative of the difficulty of establishing whether buff leather references refer to the colour of the leather work or just the material is this letter from the Commissary in Chief's office, regarding a set of accoutrements that the Ordnance were trying to unload. The latter part of the letter is missing, but it appears that both the ordnance and the Comissariat refused these accoutrements, with perhaps the Store Keeper General's office wanting them? Why?  Not according to present pattern? Old pattern or foreign accumulation?



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some more possible evidence as to the decline in buff coloured belts.

The Light Dragoon units of the British army that had buff facings were meant to have buff coloured leather work according to an order of Nov 1796. Yet by the time of Hamiton Smith's prints the 13th is shown with white coloured belts.
THE RHG seem to have kept their distinctive buff coloured belts though.

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