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Steve 60th

Clothing Board Letters 1798-1806

I made a visit to The National Archives recently, and sought to view and photograph -in full - some of the books from the Clothing Board dating from 1798-1815.

I am slowly working my way through the second one currently (WO7/32), but have completed the first: WO7/31. Of interest to me, and most likely to you chaps and those with a shared interest on clothing of the period, I enclose below some of the more interesting letters for your perusal:

WO7/31 p.48

Quote:
"Adjutant Generals Office, 19th January 1798.
Sir,
I have it in command from Field Marshall, The Duke of York, to send to you herewith, for the information of the General Officers, who comprise the Clothing Board, a pattern coat, waistcoat and pair of breeches for the Riflemen of the 5th Battalion 60th Regiment which have been approved of by his Majesty and are by order of His royal Highness, to be deposited in the office of the comptroller of Army accounts, there to be had recourse to, as occasion may require.
I have the honor to be, with great regard,
Sir,
your most obedient, humble servant,
Mr. Fawcett.
A.G.

Tho. Fauquier Esq."




WO7/31 p.150

Quote:
"Adjutant Generals Office, 28th November 1798
Sir,
I have the honor to send to you herewith, by order of His Royal Highness the Commander in Chief, for the information of the Clothing Board, a pattern jacket and pair of pantaloons, which have been approved of by His Majesty, for the 5th battalion of the 60th Regiment...
These several patterns are by command of His Royal Highness, to be deposited in the office of the comptrollers of army accounts, to be recourse, as occasion may require.
I have the honor to be, with great regard,
Sir,
your most obedient, humble servant,
Mr. Fawcett.
A.G.

Tho. Fauquier Esq."



WO7/31 p.296-297

Quote:
"Horse Guards, 11th December 1799
Sir,
I have received the Commander in Chiefs orders to transmit to you a cap, which being approved of by His Majesty for the universal use of the Infantry of the army, instead of hats, His Royal Highness has ordered to be lodged in the office of the comptrollers of army accounts, there to be had recourse to as occasion may require.
His Majesty is pleased to permit the colonels to engrave the number of their respective regiments on each side of the lion, on the lower part of the brass fronting, and likewise to the regiments, which are entitled to that distinction, His Majesty grants permission to bear their badges, in the center of the garter. The Grenadiers, who are allowed to wear their caps occasionally, when they do not use their proper grenadier caps, may if their colonels choose it, bear the grenade in the same manner as regiments, wear their badges. It is His Majesty's pleasure, that the tufts used by grenadiers shall be white, those of the light infantry dark green. All soldiers shall wear the button of their respective regiment in the center of the cockade, except the grenadiers, who will use the grenade, and the light infantry in the centre of the cockade will bear the distinction of a small bugle horn.
The caps are to be made of a sufficient size to come completely on the soldiers heads, they are to be worn straight and even, and brought forward well over the eyes.
I have the honor to be,
Your most humble servant,
Harry Calvert.
A.G.



WO7/31 p.309

Quote:
"Comptroller Office, Whitehall. 21st December 1799
Mr. Fauquier is directed by the Board of General Officer appointed especially by his Majesty's warrant to transact all matter relative to the clothing of the army, to inform Mr. -------- (left blank intentionally) that it is particularly informed that the crowns of the caps approved by His Majesty for the use of the regiments of infantry, shall be made of felt of the best and most durable quality, and the leather part of the cap dressed with the flesh side outwards, without which attention they will not wear well for the time allotted, and the board has directed that the crown of the caps should be larger than the pattern produced as it is to be of a sufficient size to come completely on the man's head."



WO7/31 p.306

Quote:
"Horse Guards, 20th December 1799
Sir,
I am directed to desire you will be pleased to cause the new pattern coat for the infantry, to be delivered to Messrs. Pearse that the skirts may be shortened, agreeable to the determination of the Clothing Board this day, assembled.
I Have the honor to be,
W. Wynyard."[/i]



WO7/31 p.310

Quote:
"Horse Guards, 27th December 1799
Sir,
I herewith have the honor to send to the comptroller's office, the pattern regulation jacket for the infantry, as altered by Mr. Pearse in conformity with the determination of the clothing board. Likewise the regulation shoes, sealed.
Sir,
your most obedient, humble servant,
Mr. W. Wynyard.

Tho. Fauquier Esq."


Selfishly, some very useful information came to light which we didn't know about, such as the 5/60th being equipped with breeches and coats from Jan 1798-NOv 1798, and thereafter in pantaloons and jackets.

WO7/32 is up next, which will of course contain some Experimental Rifle Corps info amongst others. Will post my key findings up for those interested.

Hope this info is of use/interest. Smilie_PDT
Paul Durrant

Great stuff Steve :-)
Ben Townsend

Interesting. One could posit that the move of the 5/60th from coats/breeches to jackets/pantaloons coincided with the colour change from red/white to green/blue, but I understand the colour change predates this. So were they in green coats and blue breeches, and then changed to green jacket and blue pantaloons?
Ben Townsend

Sealing the pattern of the jacket of Regiments of Riflemen, 13 July 1802

WO7.33.20

"... that all companies, corps or regiments of riflemen in His Service should be clothed in one and the same kind of uniform jacket, without any further variation, than the distinction of facings and button...I beg you will be so good as to direct any pattern of Rifle Jackets now in your office to be returned, as being of no further use."

This 1802 order is hugely significant, as it demonstrates that ALL rifle corps will revert to a single pattern of garment, showing that hitherto they didn't. It also applies to all other rifle corps outside the two main corps, so Glengarry Riflemen, Cape Mounted riflemen and so on. So we can assume that any information relative to their jackets should also apply to ours within the limits prescribed from that point (until the next deviations begin, naturally!).
Steve 60th

I anticipate that the mention of a coat with breeches, will likely refer to the uniform carried over from Hompesch's Light Infantry, which from what I gather was a green coat with scarlet lapels, and either white or green breeches, with long gaiters.

Bearing in mind that the troops from Hompesch LI were for a time stationed on the Isle of Wight and then Ireland before moving to link up with  the other half of the battalion formed from Lowenstein Chassuers (who had a grey jacket and pantaloons) at Trinidad & Grenada, it seems logical that the uniform of Hompesch could well have been the 'official' uniform referred to in the Clothing Board letter.

Using that assumption when reading the following newspaper clipping from March 1798, it could be that the DoY saw this Hungarian uniform with blue pantaloons and 'olive green jacket' and sought to augment the current uniform:

Quote:
"The Duke of York, on the Kings return from court yesterday, brought with him two Hungarian soldiers, who are to serve in the 60th Regiment of foot, for His Majesty's inspection. They were dressed in the regimentals of the country, which consisted of an olive-green jacket, blue pantaloons, black gaiters striped with red, and wore on their heads hussar caps with a green feather: they were accoutered with rifle-barrel guns, and went through their exercise with astonishing eelerity, which their method of ramming down the charge greatly contributes to, they returning the rod into its place after it is thrown up with only one motion, instead of twirling it between the fingers, as practiced by our troops; his Royal Highness has for his Regiment several more of these men who are also to be viewed by His Majesty for his approbation."


Northampton Mercury, March 31st 1798.
Steve 60th

Saw this before my trip to Kew in De Witt. Baileys book, but also saw the Clothing Board letter too. Hugely significant I agree, and it tallies up perfectly for the change from the 5/60th 9 button jacket with wings, to the three rows of twelve buttons etc. Very much seems as though all rifle corps were ordered to conform to the same jacket as laid out in 1802 for ECR/95th.

Ben Townsend wrote:
Sealing the pattern of the jacket of Regiments of Riflemen, 13 July 1802

WO7.33.20

"... that all companies, corps or regiments of riflemen in His Service should be clothed in one and the same kind of uniform jacket, without any further variation, than the distinction of facings and button...I beg you will be so good as to direct any pattern of Rifle Jackets now in your office to be returned, as being of no further use."

This 1802 order is hugely significant, as it demonstrates that ALL rifle corps will revert to a single pattern of garment, showing that hitherto they didn't. It also applies to all other rifle corps outside the two main corps, so Glengarry Riflemen, Cape Mounted riflemen and so on. So we can assume that any information relative to their jackets should also apply to ours within the limits prescribed from that point (until the next deviations begin, naturally!).
Steve 60th

Here are some of the 'cherry-picked' letters from the Clothing Board Letters WO7/32, 1800-1802:

WO7/32 P.31
 
Quote:
"Comptroller's Office, Whitehall, 17th February 1800

Gentlemen,

The General Officers who met on Saturday last to consider the increase of the price of leather, request you will be pleased to attend them on Thursday 20th instant at the office of His Royal Highness the Duke of York, Horse Guards at 11o'clock.

I have the honor to be,
Sir,
Tho. Fauquier Esq."



WO7/32 P.45
Quote:
"Comptroller's Office, Whitehall, 7th March 1800

Sir,

The General Officers appointed by His Majesty's warrant to transact all matters relative to clothing of the army having revised the draught of a new regulation and paid due attention to the subject of the highland dress, as likewise to the clothing of the 5th Battalion of the 60th and the Black Regiments, have directed me to return the draught to you in its amended state together with a list approved by them of articles of clothing for the corps above named as distinct from other Regiments of the line and I am to request that you will transmit the same to the Secretary-at-War in order that a warrant may be prepared and laid before the King for His Majesty's approbation.

I have the honor to be,
Sir,
Tho. Fauquier Esq."


WO7/32 P.167
 
Quote:
"Whitehall, 14th November 1800

Sir,

I have the honor to transmit to you an extract from the minutes of the Clothing Board of General Officers who met on the 5th instant so far as relates to the estimate for the clothing of Colonel Manningham's corps of Riflemen, in order that the same may be transmitted to the Secretary-at-War.

I have the honor to be,
Sir,
Tho. Fauquier Esq."


WO7/32 P.169:
Quote:
"Clothing established for the new regulations 1800 for 5th Battn. 60th Regt.

Private Green Coat                                       15
Serge Waistcoat                                   3,2
Blue Pantaloons                            8
Hat Cap                                         4,3
Shoes*                                       11
                                              2,1,5

Deduct so much
to be stopped from                           2
the soldier.
                                                  1,19,5

The Colonel paying 4/6 per pair the soldier paying the difference of 1/ which is saved to him in the price of the gaiters, as he wears short instead of long gaiters.




WO7/32 P.168:

Quote:
"Clothing approved for the Rifle Corps commanded by Colonel Coote Mannigham:

Private Green Coat                                       15
Whtie Waistcoat                                   3,3
Green Pantaloons                            7,9
Hat Cap                                         4,3
Shoes*                                       11
                                              2,1,3

Deduct so much
to be stopped from                           1,6
the soldier.
                                                  1,19,9

* the colonel paying 4/9 per pair the soldier paying the difference of 9,5 which is paid to them in the price of gaiters as he wears them short instead of long and also sock instead of stocking."



WO7/32 P.213
 
Quote:
"Horse Guards, 18th December 1800

Sir,

I have the honor to send herewith for the information of the Clothing Board a pattern set of accoutrements for the Rifle Corps, which has received His Majesty's approbation, and is by direction of His Royal Highness the Commander in Chief to be deposited in the office of the Comptroller of the army accounts.

I have the honor to be,
Harry Calvert

Tho. Fauquier Esq."



WO7/32 P.213
 
Quote:
"War Office, 12th March 1801

Sir,

I am commanded to acquaint you for the information of the Clothing Board, His Majesty was pleased to order that a corps of Rifle Men to be under the command of Colonel Coote Manningham should be formed and placed on the establishment of the army from the 25th August last inclusive, agreeably to the numbers mentioned in the margin and that from the 25th December last the establishment of the said corps was by his Majesty's command altered so as to consist of the numbers specified in the enclosed.

I am,
Sir,
your most obedient, humble servant,
W. Wyndham.

Tho. Fauquier Esq."

Ten Companies
1 Serjeant Major
1 Quarter Master Serjeant
1 Pay Master Serjeant
50 Serjeants
50 Corporals
1 Bugle Major
20 Buglers
1 Armourer Major
10 Armourers
740 Privates




WO7/32 P.267
 
Quote:
"War Office, 18th November 1801

Sir,

I am commanded to acquaint you for the information of the Clothing Board, it is His Majesty's pleasure that Colonel Manningham be permitted to exhibit patterns to be sealed for the clothing of his regiment of Rifle Men for the ensuing year.

I have the honor to be,
Sir,
your most obedient, humble servant,
C. Yorke.

Tho. Fauquier Esq."




WO7/32 P.218
Quote:
"War Office, 27th March 1801

Sir,

It appearing that the clothing provided for the 5th Battalion of the 60th Regiment for the year 1800 has been kept in store and will be applied to the service of the current year, the men having received a compensation in money in lieu of their clothing for the period first mentioned and His Royal Highness the Commander-in-Chief having signified his approbation of this arrangement which it is unnecessary to provide any clothing for the Battalion for the year 1801.
I am commanded to acquaint you for the information of the Clothing Board, it is His Majesty's pleasure that the board do allow an arrangement to be made by Field Marshall His Royal Highness the Duke of York of the allowance for the clothing of the said Battalion from the 30th December 1800 to the 29th December 1801, notwithstanding the usual certificate of the view and approval of the said clothing shall not have been exhibited to the board.

I am,
Sir,
your most obedient, humble servant,
C. Yorke.

Tho. Fauquier Esq."




WO7/32 P.250
  "War Office, 31st August 1801

Quote:
Sir,

I am to acquaint you for the information of the Clothing Board, His Majesty has been pleased to order that the two recruiting companies of the 5th Battalion of the 60th [or Royal American] Regiment of Foot shall be discontinued on the establishment from the 25th of this month inclusive.

I have the honor to be,
Sir,
your most obedient, humble servant,
C. Yorke.

Tho. Fauquier Esq."



Paul Durrant

WO26/39

Clothing Regulation for Cavalry & Infantry
(1803)

"...And whereas we entirely approving of the suggestions of the board have thought fit to direct that the existing regulations touching the clothing and appointments of our forces should be altered accordingly and have moreover decreed it advisable that the whole clothing regulations as so amended should be comprised in one warrant and published for the guidance of our army. Our will and pleasure therefore is that instead of our warrants severally bearing dates thr 23 April 1801 and 20 May 1801 and the 22 Dec 1802, this our warrant be considered as the sole standing regulation for our service in regard to the species of clothing to be provided and the claims of soldiers on account through the provision of necessaries, the period of delivery of clothing, the species and duration of Cavalry appointments, and the supply of great coats for the infantry..."


In the 5th Battalion of the 60th Regiment and the 95th Regiment of foot, or Rifle Corps, each Sergeant shall have for clothing
Annually
A jacket the sleeves unlined
A waistcoat with serge sleeves
A pair of pantaloons, and
A pair of military shoes, and
Once in every two years;
A cap as above

Each Corporal, Drummer and Private man shall have for clothing
Annually
A jacket lined, but not laced, with sleeves unlined
A kersey waistcoat with serge sleeves
A pair of blue pantaloons made of cloth of the same quality as the jacket and
A pair of military shoes, and
Once in every two years;
A cap as above"


Notes compiled and transcribed by Iain Wilkinson

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